暴富、PUA、老年X爱……今年最敢说的节目,为什么没了?

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花痴女王|文

The Queen of Flowers.

关注这个号的花花都知道,女王最喜欢安利一些相对小众但是又特别的节目。

All the flowers that follow this number know that the Queen likes a lot of smaller but special programmes in the Anly.

前阵子推荐的《奇遇人生》,反馈非常好。(回顾文章戳这里)

That's a very good feedback from the "Spirits of Life" that was recommended a few days ago.

最近做年终盘点找资料的时候,女王又挖到一个不得不推荐的国产综艺——

In the latest year-end inventory search, the Queen dug up another home-grown art that she had to recommend--

《和陌生人说话》

Talk to Strangers > /strong


《和陌生人说话》是前凤凰卫视主持人陈晓楠做的一档访谈节目。

Talk to Strangers is a talk show by former Phoenix Guard host Chen Xiaonan.

目前出了三个系列,豆瓣评分都在8.5以上。

has three series, with bean petals rated more than 8.5.

第一季是去年中出的,出了12期,每一期的访谈对象都是不同领域的素人。

The first quarter of

节目形式有点像姜思达之前的《透明人》,但内容要更深入和更犀利,它把镜头对准了:

It's kind of like "Transparency Man" before Chonsta, but it's deeper and sharper, and it points the camera to:

抢劫犯、杀人犯、杀马特教父、换肺女孩、甚至还有为死囚写遗书的人……

Robbers, murderers, killers of Matt's godfathers, pulmonary exchange girls, and even those who write suicide notes for death row prisoners...


△没有立场,没有偏见,哪怕受访者是做过错事、犯过法的人,节目依然给他们一个机会平静地叙述自己。我印象最深是为死囚写遗书的那期,负责写遗书欢镜听说,死囚在人生的最后一晚每个人都表现不同,有一个19岁的死囚,在提到亲人的时候没有哭,可是当他吃最爱的酸菜鱼时,却忍不住掉眼泪,“那是活着的滋味”。

There is no position, there is no bias, and even if the interviewee is a person who has done wrong and violated the law, the show gives them an opportunity to describe themselves peacefully. I remember most of the time when I wrote a suicide note for a death row prisoner, and I heard that everyone on death row behaves differently on the last night of his life, that there is a 19-year-old death row prisoner who doesn't cry when he talks about his family, but when he eats his favorite sour fish, he can't stop crying, “that's the smell of living”.

之后,节目组在今年5月出了特别节目《不可说》,形式改成同一个话题持有不同立场的双方对谈。

After , this May's special show, " Innocence ", was replaced by a discussion between the two sides with different positions on the same subject.

出了四期:颜值、癌症、暴富、丁克。

Four issues were issued: pigmentation, cancer, violent enrichment, Dink.

其中颜值这期在网上引发了关于整容VS天然的讨论。

The issue of capricious values has triggered a natural discussion about plastic VS online.


△其实看完这期对整容也会有不同的看法,整容没有错,错的不过是把美貌当作女生评价标准的价值观。

It is true that there will be different views on plastic surgery after this period, and there is nothing wrong with plastic surgery but the value of beauty as a criterion for the evaluation of girls.

8月底,《和陌生人说话》正式推出第二季。

At the end of August, the second quarter of Talk to Strangers was officially launched.

题材比之前要更加尖锐,比特币、PUA、伊拉克雇佣兵、老年人性爱……几乎每一期的主题都可以引爆热搜,豆瓣评分高达9.6。

issues are more acute than before: Bitcoin, PUA, Iraqi mercenaries, elderly sex... Almost every issue of the subject can trigger a hot search, with bean petals rated as high as 9.6.

但很可惜,原计划有14期,10月底出到第四期“老年人的情爱江湖”之后,就因为“技术原因下架调整”……

But unfortunately, the original plan had 14 issues, and after the end of October until the end of the fourth issue of "The Love of the Elderly", it was “technically adjusted”...


△第二季的话题是相当劲爆

The topic of season two is quite exciting.

虽然目前我们没有办法看到完整版,可是在@和陌生人说话节目 的官微上,依然保存有原节目一半内容的精华版。

Although we can't see the full version at the moment, we still have a fine version of half of the original program on @talking with strangers .

就这四期,每期不到30分钟的内容,就已经信息量满满。

The information is already full for these four issues, each of which is less than 30 minutes.

它足以让人相信,《和陌生人说话》第二季绝对是值9.6分的良心节目。

It is enough to believe that the second season of Talk with Strangers is absolutely a 9.6-cent conscience show.


△制图:小助手蓝蓝

Mapping: Little Assistant Blue Blue


币圈:发财梦

currency circle:

第一期讲的是这两年很火的——虚拟货币圈、区块链、比特币。

The first part is about these two years of fun --

看这些高深的概念,大家会不会觉得,一定是家里有矿的富二代或者金融精英才懂行道?

Do you think it's the rich kids or the financial elite who have mines in the house who know how to do things?

实际上,炒币的大部分不是这种人。

In fact, most of the money is not that kind of person.

节目组就采访了一个14岁就出来打工的农村小伙曾文(化名)。

The group interviewed a 14-year-old rural group who came out to work under the same name.


在炒虚拟货币之前,曾文做过各种各样的工作:服务员、网管、富士康员工……甚至还进过传销组织。

Prior to the production of the virtual currency, a variety of jobs had been done: waitresses, webmasters, staff of Fuxcom... and even marketing organizations.

2017年,虚拟货币大火,曾文带着5000元入市了。

In 2017, a virtual currency fire entered the city with $5,000.

结果,28天,他就赚了20多w。

"Strange" results, 28 days, he earns over 20 ws.

市道好的时候,他每天都可以从账户提现几万块。

When the market was good, he could raise tens of thousands of dollars from the account every day.


对农村出来的曾文来说,他过去二十多年都没有见过这么多钱,这是人生巅峰,这是出人头地。

He has not seen that amount of money for more than 20 years, for the country's great literature, which is the culmination of his life.

他给了父母好几万,买了村里最大的电视,还为自己“消费升级”了。

He gave his parents tens of thousands, bought the largest television in the village and “upgraded” his own consumption.

“以前都是自己用手洗衣服的,自从做了互联网金融,进入币圈都是用洗衣机。”

"I used to wash my clothes with my own hands. Ever since I made Internet finance, I've used a washing machine to get into the currency ring."


但是,人生哪有那么顺呢,比特币今年开始狂跌。

But there's no such thing as a happy life, and Bitcoin started to fall so hard this year.

曾文的生活也从巅峰滑落谷底,几天就亏了100多w。

Tsang Man's life also slipped from the top to the bottom of the valley, losing more than 100 w in a few days.

过去赚的钱都赔了,可曾文还是不想离开,每天依然守在出租屋的电脑前炒币。

The money earned in the past was paid off, but Tsang Man did not want to leave and kept it in front of the computers of the rental house every day.

为什么不去打工呢?

Why don't you go to work?

“因为打工已经证明是一条错误的道路,无数人都在真的打工,但是他们根本就没钱。”(女王感到膝盖中箭是怎么回事)

"because working has proved to be a wrong path, and countless people are actually working, but they don't have any money at all." (The Queen feels what's going on in her knee.)


陈晓楠问:“那你炒了一年多,你对区块链、比特币这些概念研究得怎样?”
曾文答:“我没有研究,研究那是技术员的事,我们就只要在里面得到利益。”
陈:“那你有想过那些钱怎么来吗?”
曾:“割韭菜呗,我也是韭菜,只是我是韭菜上面那一撮,老韭菜。”

Chen Xiaonan asked, "Well, you've been fired for more than a year, and how have you studied the concepts of block chains and bitcoin?"


曾文很清楚,在他面前是一个又一个的骗局,一个又一个的泡沫。

It was clear to him that there was one trick after another, one after another.

可是,他还是一往无前地跳进坑里。

However, he jumped into the pit without going forward.

因为他就和大部分的炒币者一样,相信自己是幸运的,相信自己能比别人走得快。

Because he is as lucky as most of those who make coins as he is and believes that he can walk faster than others.

不然,“像我这种没学历又没人际关系,怎么发财呀”。

Otherwise, > >, "how can I be rich with no education and no connections like me."



PUA 男


strong>pua male

曾文渴望有很多很多钱,第二期的林晨(化名)则是渴望有很多很多女人的PUA男。

There is a lot of money in Tsang's longing, and the second time Lin morning is a PUA man who yearns for a lot of women.

PUA也是这两年兴起的新词汇,Pick-up Artist(把妹达人)的缩写。

"Strong" PUA is also the new vocabulary that emerged in these two years, the acronym of Pick-up Artist.

起初PUA只是指一些约会技巧比较厉害的男性,但后面有人把这些技巧细化,并用于各种骗局中,PUA就成了一个负面的词语。

Initially, the PUA referred only to men with better dating skills, but then someone fine-tuned them and used them in various schemes, and PUA became a negative term.


现在PUA已经彻底产业化,据统计,在多家网站上,注册会员已经达到180万人。

The PUA is now fully industrialized and, according to statistics, there are 1.8 million registered members on various websites.

而节目组采访的22岁大学生林晨就是其中一个成员。

The 22-year-old university student who was interviewed by the program was one of the members.


和曾文进入币圈的原因有点类似,林晨也是一个对自己感到自卑的底层青年。

It's a bit similar to Tsang Man's reason for entering the currency, and

来自西南小镇的他,家庭很不好,父母靠摆地摊供他上大学。

He came from a small town in the south-west, and his family was bad, and his parents put him in college.

林晨觉得自己身边的人要聪明得多,可是因为出身,他一直没有好的机会,甚至就连找女朋友,也困难重重。

Lin morning felt that he was much smarter because of his origin, and that he had never had a good chance and even had difficulty finding a girlfriend.


因为追不到女朋友,林晨开始学习PUA。

Because I can't catch up with my girlfriend, Lin started studying PUA.

一研究,林晨就颠覆了自己的观念:“女生不是靠追来的,而是靠吸引。”

One study led to the reversal of the idea that “girls do not come after them, but rather are attracted to them”.

林晨介绍了最常用的PUA「五步陷阱法」:

Lin morning introduced the most commonly used PUA's Five-step Trap:

1.建立个人形象(卖人设)
2.颠覆人物形象(卖惨)
3.建立契约(引诱女生先表白)
4.撕毁契约(吹毛求疵找毛病)
5.情感虐待(打击女生)

1. Build a personal image (seller)
2. Subversive image (sale) 3. Establish a contract (entice a girl to confess) 4. Break a contract (b/> 5. Emotional abuse (strike a girl)


△关于PUA,文章里我就不展开了,感兴趣的花花可以上官微看,或者查看相关资料,很建议大家深入了解一下,不要被骗了。

As for the PUA, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it, I'm going to look at the flowers, or I'm going to look at the information, and I'm going to suggest you get a deeper look at it, so don't be fooled.

林晨说,这招基本上万试万灵。

In the morning, Lin said that the move was basically a try-and-seek move.

“就像演戏一样,女生基本上完全按照这个剧本走。”
“我没有自杀鼓励,可是也有女生要为我去死了。”

"As in the act, girls basically follow the script completely."
"I have no suicide incentive, but there are girls dying for me."
.


学会了PUA的林晨,用他自己的话说,就像爱情游戏里的最强王者,最快的纪录是4小时就搞定一个女生(从认识到表白)。

He learned the PUA's morning and, in his own words, like the most powerful king in a love game, the fastest record is four hours to get a girl.

但拥有这么多女朋友的林晨,真的快乐吗?

But is it really fun to have so many girlfriends?

不,他对自己感到的是深深的厌恶。

No, he's sick of himself.

“我感觉我这种人,是比渣男还要渣。”

"I feel like a piece of shit like me is worse than a piece of shit."


一方面,林晨渴望能得到一份真正的爱情,能够有一个人,完完全全接受真实的、没有使用PUA技巧的他。

On the one hand, the morning of Lin aspired to a true love that would allow a person to accept completely and completely the real one who did not use the PUA technique.

但另一方面,他又在PUA的猎艳游戏里,失去了对爱的感知。

But on the other hand, he lost his sense of love in the PUA game.

“只是盲目地打游戏,再也找不到那种快乐的感觉了。”

"just playing blind games and never finding that joy again."


老年人性×爱

Senior Sex >

《和陌生人说话》也不是只有曾文、林晨这种极端的故事,第四期的“老年人的情爱江湖”,我就看得很感慨。

Talking to Strangers is not just an extreme story like San and Lin morning, but I am very impressed by the fourth issue of "The Love of the Elderly".

这是讲一群老人在北京菖蒲河公园相亲的事。

This is about a group of elderly people dating in Beijing River Park.

老年人找伴,他们会看中什么?

Old people looking for company. What do they see?

性格?钱财?家庭?

Personality, money, family?

NONONO,一个62岁的胡大爷告诉你,是身体!

"Strong" NONO, a 62-year-old Master Hu tells you it's the body!


这位大爷在菖蒲河五六个女朋友,其中还有一个拍电影的女演员。

He's got five or six girlfriends, and one of them is a movie actress.

他说她们都可漂亮了。

He says they're all pretty.

“樱桃小嘴,皮肤倍儿细腻,一点皱纹也没有。”

"cherries' little mouths, skins, no wrinkles."


谈恋爱的时候,胡大爷也和年轻人一样。

When you're in love, Master Hu is like a young man.

当街就亲起来。

Kisses on the street.

最浪漫的事?“鸳鸯浴。”
最疯狂的事?“一天四次。”

"Blockquate" is the most romantic thing? "Breathing." "Breathing crazy?" "Br/blockquate four times a day."


说话没羞没臊的胡大爷,难道是传说中的老流氓?

Don't be ashamed to talk to Master Hu. Is he an old hooligan?

不不不,虽然胡大爷“爱开车”,但生活中却是一个温柔的人。

No, no, no. Master Hu's "driving" but he's a gentle man in life.

现在极度渴望性的他,其实过了大半辈子的无性婚姻。

"Strong" now has a strong desire for sex, but after most of his life, he has had a sexless marriage.

以前的老伴因为身体不好,他们一直分房睡,后面几年也基本上在医院度过。

Formerly, because of their ill health, they had been sleeping in separate rooms and spent mostly in hospitals for the following years.

口上说“不是很喜欢”,但老伴走了以后,胡大爷会把她的证件放身上。

He said, “Not very much”, but when the old man left, Master Hu would put her papers on her.


一提到她,胡大爷还会忍不住掉眼泪。

If you mention her, Master Hu will still cry.


如此深情,为什么还要找新女朋友?

Why are you still looking for a new girlfriend?

“你不知道一个人多孤独寂寞,在屋里一待着,一天看电视,电视一宿一宿的开。”

"You don't know how lonely a person is, staying inside, watching TV all day long."



或许,表面看起来,上面三个故事,曾文、林晨甚至60岁以后还要追求性生活的胡大爷,都很魔幻、很疯狂。

Perhaps, on the surface, the three above-mentioned stories, Master Hu, who pursued sex after Tsang Man, Lin morning and even 60 years of age, were magical and crazy.

可实际上,他们每一个人不都是我们这个社会的一个缩影。

But actually, each of them is not a microcosm of our society.

曾文、林晨都是底层的「失败者」,他们因为从出身开始就没有和别人公平竞争的机会,于是只能把炒币、PUA这些极端手法,当作自己走向另一个阶层的捷径。

Since they had no opportunity to compete fairly with others from their origins, Tsang Man and Lin were the “failures” at the bottom, so they could only use such extreme methods as coins and PUAs as a shortcut to another class.


△林晨说,PUA是他们这些找贫困生谈恋爱唯一的手段,有人单身一辈子,有人两天一个女朋友,这公平吗?(这观点我们不一定认同,但他说的社会现象,却值得深思)

Is it fair to say that the PUA is their only means of finding poor people to fall in love, and that there is a single person for a lifetime, and there is a girlfriend for two days? (We don't necessarily agree, but what he says about social phenomena is worth thinking about)

而胡大爷的渴望,不就反映了我们过去对老年人的偏见和忽视?

And isn't Master Hu's desire a reflection of our past prejudice and neglect of the elderly?

在我们的刻板印象中,总觉得60以后的人生就是无用的,是一个等死的过程。

In our stereotypical impression, life after 60 is useless and a process of waiting to die.

但其实,他们和我们一样,是一个独立的个体。

But they are, like us, independent individuals.

只要人生没有结束,他们就可以继续追求自己的欲望,继续拥有爱人的权利。

As long as life is not over, they can continue to pursue their desires and continue to have the rights of their loved ones.

“就一丝的光亮,就看着那光亮,想得到。“

"Just a ray of light, looking at that light and thinking about it."


△菖蒲河公园里另一个追爱的男人,55岁的李先生。

Another man who's in love, Mr. Lee, age 55.

正因为每一个普通人,都不是孤立的,他们都与这个时代背景相连。

It's because every ordinary person is not isolated, and they are connected to the background of this time.

所以我们才需要去聆听别人的故事,在别人的故事里寻找世界的全貌。

That's why we have to listen to other people's stories and find the whole world in others' stories.

曾文、林晨,或许都是我们绝不愿意成为的人。

The people of the past and the morning may well be those whom we would never like to be.

可是,当我们一个劲地嘲笑他们「屌丝」的时候,是不是就此失去了解生活的机会?失去面对人性的能力?

But when we laugh at their dicks, do we lose the chance to know about life? We lose the ability to face humanity?


△曾文有他特别的一面,他说自己是个正能量人,所以好东西都会跟着来,他有信心可以赚大钱。你可以说这不叫乐观叫傻,但反思我们自己,不是有时候也会和他一样的想法,情愿相信自己有狗屎运,也不肯踏踏实实工作、学习。

He says he's a positive energy man, so he's confident that he can make a lot of money. You can say it's not optimism, but thinking about ourselves, not sometimes like him, is willing to believe that we're lucky enough to be able to work and learn.

喜欢这个节目,也喜欢这个节目的态度:

I like this show, and I like the way it is:

平等、清醒、冷静,可是又充满理解的温度。

is equal, sober, calm, but full of understanding.

评价对错、表达情绪,朋友圈已经有太多10w+文。

There are already too many 10w+ writings in the circle of friends who evaluate right and wrong.

在这个喧闹又单一的舆论环境里,我们恰恰最缺乏的,就是《和陌生人说话》这样,不站队不煽情,努力还原真相的勇气。

In this loud and single public opinion environment, the only thing we're missing is the courage to try to restore the truth by not standing on the team, and talking to strangers.


△陈晓楠在演讲中说过,做采访最打动她的不是跌宕起伏的情节,不是是非对错的评价,而是“每个人站在生命面前,剥离了所有东西,剩下我们最朴素也需要共同面对的命题——生老病死、喜怒哀乐、爱恨情仇”

In her speech, Chen Xiaonan said that her interview was not about falling and falling, it was not about miscalculation, but about “everyone standing in front of his life, stripping away everything, leaving us the simplest of which we need to face together — death from old sickness, gloom, hate”.

在前几天那篇「影视降级」的文里(回顾戳这里),我抱怨过,现在做的节目的人都太急功近利了,于是我们留下了很多垃圾。

In the "shade down" article the other day, I complained that the people who were doing the show were too quick, so we left a lot of trash behind.

但其实,在这阴沟里,依然是有人仰望星空的。

But in fact, in this ditch, there's still someone looking up at the stars.

即便这一种仰望星空的努力,只能存在很短的时间,但他们做过的事情,也足以令人尊敬。

Even if such an effort to look up to the stars can only exist for a very short period of time, what they have done is respectable enough.


△“爱是什么?爱就是感同身受。”感动。

"What is love? Love is the feeling."

最后真诚推荐大家都去关注这档节目,也希望未来能有更多空间,容纳这样的节目。

Finally, we sincerely recommend that everyone pay attention to the programme and hope that there will be more space in the future to accommodate it.

至于推荐语,就用路遥的一句话:

As far as references are concerned, let's just say:

为什么人们宁愿去关心一个蹩脚电影演员的吃喝拉撒和鸡毛蒜皮,而不愿了解一个普通人波涛汹涌的内心世界?

Why would people care about a lame movie actor who eats and shits and doesn't want to know what's inside a normal person?

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